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John William Herbert Chamarette

John William Herbert Chamarette[1]

Male 1896 - 1980  (84 years)

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  • Name John William Herbert Chamarette 
    Born 5 May 1896  Saifabad, Hyderabad-Deccan, India Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3
    Christened 22 Oct 1896  Saifabad, Hyderabad-Deccan, India Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5
    Gender Male 
    Occupation Thana (near Jamshedpur), Bengal, India Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Bridge building for the railways 
    Died Sep 1980  Jhargrahm, West Bengal, India Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Person ID I206  Family
    Last Modified 29 Jan 2006 

    Father Arthur John Andrew Chamarette,   b. 7 Aug 1861, Hyderabad, India Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 Nov 1920, Bangalore, India Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years) 
    Mother Mary Caroline Louise Fallon,   b. Aft 1860 
    Married 17 Jan 1894  Bangalore, India Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Notes 
    • Guesses for the people in the Family Photograph:
      Arthur standing, and Mary Fallon (Birdie) sitting on the right.
      The oldest girl on the left my grandmother Beryl, and the other girl her sister Winifred (Flossie). Both from Arthur's previous marriage.
      The oldest boy boy at the back Arthur, and the other boy John. Then the babe in arms would be the second Winifred (Winnie).
    Photos
    Arthur Chamarette and Family
    Arthur Chamarette and Family
    Family ID F27  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Ethel May Palmer 
    Married 3 Jan 1922  Quetta, Baluchistan, India Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Location 1: Thana, Bengal. Moved there from Hyderabad. 
    Location 2: 7 Khosi Rd, Jamshedpur, Bengal. Moved there from Thana 
    Location 3: Jhargram, Bengal. Moved there from Jamshedpur. 
    Children 
     1. Elizabeth Marianne Chamarette,   b. 24 May 1923,   d. 13 Aug 1923  (Age 0 years)
     2. Living
     3. Living
     4. Peter William Chamarette,   b. 27 Dec 1927, Jamshedpur, Bengal, India Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Aug 1947  (Age 19 years)
    Documents
    Streetmap of where Weston and Chamarette familys lived in Jamshedpur
    Streetmap of where Weston and Chamarette familys lived in Jamshedpur
    Edwin and Beryl Weston lived in Straight Mile Road, Zoe and Joyce Chamarette lived in Kosi Road.
    Last Modified 12 Sep 2005 
    Family ID F99  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos
    My mother's mother's half brother
    My mother's mother's half brother
    John William Herbert Chamarette

  • Notes 
    • Arthur Mitchell (his grandson, via daughter Joyce) says
      "My mother Joyce replied to my questions "Why did the Chamarette's move to Jamshedpur" Mother is not really sure, but she thinks that some of the reasons could have been: Poor hospital/medical facalaties, Political & civil chaos, Domestic help was not trustworthy.
      Her parents then ended up in a place called Thana, her dad was involved in bridge building for the Railways. In 1978 I visited Grandfather in Jhargram and spent a month with him. I remember his bridge building stories. Just picture this. They worked in total isolation away from civilization, they lived in camps. Every now and then they would be attacked by bandits. So they would take cover, pick up rifles and go into battle. When the firing stopped they would resume bridge building. Now that's what I callwork ethic. My employees would complain that their office chairs were not ergonomical enough and that the toilet paper was not soft enough. Amazing!
      Anyway, Conditions were not much better in Thana, so they moved to Jamshedpur, seems to me that would have been a technological center, a 'silicon valley' of the times. The steel mill offered good employment and the conditions must have been better. Theylived at 7 Khosi Rd. I often walked by the house when I was a ten year old kid. I attended a torturous couple of years in boarding school at Loyola in Jamshedpur. "

      So - John William was born in Hyderabad in 1896, went to Thana to work on building a bridge, then on to Jamshedpur which was much more civilized. No dates, but he was married in Quetta in 1922 and his youngest daughter Joyce was born in Jamshedpur in 1927. Quetta seems to be in the same area as Thana, so maybe he was there in 1922. Then on to Jamshedpur before 1927.
      He died in Jhargrahm in 1980.
    • Arthur also says : When you write Norman you can convey my best wishes to him. You can also tell him that I really liked and loved his brother John William Herbert Chamarette. I was lucky to have spent a month with him in 1979 when I left Australia and traveled the world for six months with my girlfriend (my wife of 26 years now) Grandfather did not leave India in 1966 when we did he stayed on. It was good for my spirit to see him. He was 81 years at the time and still rode his bicycle about 10 miles round trip from his cashew plantation to the markets. Happiest 81 year old I ever met. If there's one thing I hope I have at that age it would be his happiness.

      In prior emails with my mother she has some memories of your mother and or aunt. They lived in Jamshedpur. I have seen the house where they lived. I was schooled in Loyola boarding school in Jamshedpur and often walked past the house on days when the priests would release us from our prison like oppressed existence

  • Sources 
    1. [S9] Other Researchers - Arthur Mitchell.
      his grandson Arthur Mitchell - Information is contained in the Methodist Episcopal Church in Hyderabad. Minister W.D.Waller Witnesses: J.E.Chamarette & A.H. Fallon Per Henery F. Hilmer

    2. [S7] BMD - British Library.
      from baptism

    3. [S9] Other Researchers - Arthur Mitchell.
      He gives the time of birth too - 8:10pm

    4. [S7] BMD - British Library, N2 v117 p110.
      I noted 28 Oct not 22, but assume I misread, and Arthur is right.

    5. [S9] Other Researchers - Arthur Mitchell.