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Born 58 Norfolk House Road, Streatham, SW16
Moved at about 1 year old to 48 Holmwood Road, Seven Kings.
From 7 to 9 lived at 2 Faircroft Ave, Barking. This was left to Grandpa by Grandma Muse, who was his mother (no other children). She later married Thomas Muse and lived with him at his house in Suffolk and might have died there, but she kept the Barking house until she died.
The house at 42 Collier Row Lane was built, and they moved there when Dad was 9.

Roy married Florence Birdette Weston on 25 Jan 1941 in Whalton, Northumberland. Florence (daughter of Edwin Ash Weston and Beryl Kathleen Chamarette) was born on 24 Jan 1916 in Saifabad, Hyderabad-Deccan, India; was christened on 25 Feb 1916 in Methodist Episcopal Church, Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India; died on 26 Mar 1998 in 40 Collier Row Lane, Romford, Essex, England; was buried in L13 34, S Essex Crematorium, Ockendon Rd, Corbets Tey, Upminster, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Occupation: Insurance Broker
• Occupation: 1916, 49 Rushton Street, Shoreditch, London, England; Sergeant 21st London Regiment Optician

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Grandpa (always called George). I have assumed the 1901 census household indicated is correct because:
- Birth place and date are correct.
- Sarah is given as married but same name as parents
- George would be a VERY late child for Sarah's mother.
- I remember some family talk of a Kent connection.
- At her later marriage to Thomas Muse Sarah gives her father's name as Noah (though she crossed out Hughes and put Norris.

James married Gladys Ruby Boyton on 4 Nov 1916 in West Ham, London, England. Gladys (daughter of David Boyton and Florence Maud King) was born on 10 Aug 1895 in Sudbury, Suffolk, England; died on 5 Jan 1980 in 42 Collier Row Lane, Romford, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Grandma. Her family maybe lived in Francis Road Leyton in 1914.

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Roy Hughes says they both belonged to cycling clubs (women's and men's) and met in the Wake Arms south of Epping on the A11.

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Norman Chamarette says that Edwin was the Chief Permanent Way Inspector of the State Railways in Hyderabad. They lived at a Railway House in Darmabad. Later (I'm not sure where this information came from) Edwin's Aunt Emily got him the job in Jamshedpur, as Superintendent of the Railways for Tata Steel.

Place name Kammamett
(1) In http://dsal.uchicago.edu/maps/gazetteer/index.html there's an old map showing Khammamet (I think) west of Secunderabad in the province (?) of Warangal.
(2) In http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~poyntz/India/maps.html#area Constables 1893 area maps there's an index of place names which gives a district and town of Kamamet (in Haid.)
In current day India I can find two possibilities -
(3) Kamarhati, but that is a suburb of Calcutta in West Bengal, which seems unlikely;
(4) Kamareddi, which is maybe 70 miles North of Secunderabad.


He left India in 1947 shortly after India was granted independence, though the older children had gone to England before the war. According to Florence they went to Newcastle because Winifred's husband Edward Davis came from there, and they had no other ties in England.

Edwin married Beryl Kathleen Chamarette on 23 Dec 1913 in Methodist Episcopal Church, Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India. Beryl (daughter of Arthur John Andrew Chamarette and Catherine Emma Combes) was born on 26 Jul 1888 in Hyderabad, India; was christened on 23 Aug 1889 in St George's Church, Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India; died on 30 Sep 1977 in "Coniston" Dunston Bank Gateshead, Newcastle-on-Tyne, England; was buried in All Saints Cemetery, Jesmond Rd, Newcastle-on-Tyne, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Impossible to get further here, since they were unmarried, and we don't know his name. Dad thought he was James George but...

Unknown married Sarah Anne Hughes. Sarah (daughter of Noah Hughes and Ellen Norris) was born on 27 Mar 1863 in Marylebone, London, England; was christened on 31 May 1863 in Christ Church, St Marylebone, London, England; died on 25 Mar 1927 in 6 Oakbury Rd, South Fulham, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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I have assumed the 1901 census household indicated is correct because:
-Birth place and date are approximately correct - she may not have known she was born in Marylebone and guessed at Bethnal Green like her sister.
-Sarah is given as married but same name as parents
-George would be a VERY late child for Sarah's mother.
-I remember some family talk of a Kent connection.
-At her later marriage to Thomas Muse Sarah gives her father's name as Noah (though she crossed out Hughes and put Norris.

Her son (James) George was my Grandfather. His father was said to be a deceased theatrical artiste on Grandpa's marriage certificate. Grandpa was vehemently against him according to Dad.
Grandpa's mother later married Thomas Muse who had a house in Suffolk. An A Muse was a witness at Grandpa's marriage, along with Grandma's parents. Almost all the Muse's in the 1901 census are in the north of England.
Dad remembers a Fox, known as 'uncle' who had a lot of property in Stoke Newington. He used to ride around on his bicycle repairing and taking rents. Grandpa joked that he would inherit the property since he was the only living relative.

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Great Grandfather. I remember he had a large and very prickly moustache.
Roy says he failed in the fish business (lots of others in the family also in fish) and moved to Francis Road, London about 1914.

David married Florence Maud King on 4 Jan 1894 in Sudbury, Suffolk, England. Florence (daughter of Jonathan King and Susannah Willet Prior) was born on 9 Jan 1876 in Sudbury, Suffolk, England; died on 14 Feb 1971 in Streatham, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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She would have been only 18 when Ivy was born, and David would have
been 5 years older. I remember her - a tiny lady, always twinkling,
with a lovely scent I've always associated with her - lavender maybe, or 4711?

Other Events:

• Occupation: 1885 - Overseer, Deccan Railways, Secunderabad
• Occupation: 1887 - Permanent Way Inspector, H.H.N G. S. Ry. Co. (His Highness the Nizam's Guaranteed State Railway)

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He and Sarah his wife were both staunch Methodists

John married Sarah Louisa Ash on 28 Dec 1885 in Secunderabad, Hyderabad, India. Sarah (daughter of John Ash and Anne Jane Moore) was born on 11 Sep 1869 in Secunderabad, Hyderabad, India; was christened on 4 Nov 1869 in St John's Church, Secunderabad, Hyderabad, India; died in Sep 1916. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Occupation: Household Surgeon, Afzul Gunj Hospital.; In Medical charge of HH the Nizam's 4th Infantry.

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On the web site for Osmania Medical College in Hyderabad, there is a bit of history. When it was Hyderabad Medical School, teaching in Urdu, in 1888 a Chloroform Commission was set up (with the Nizam's blessing) to study the effect of Chloroform on dogs.They did pioneer work, and one of the commission members was Mr A Chamarette. The leader of the commission was Dr Laurie.The Medical School was set up in 1846 by the Nizam, deliberately using Urdu to encourage native doctors, from the sound of it.
Since Arthur was Assistant Surgeon HH Nizam's service in 1887 when he married, this is almost certain to be him. He would have been 27 years old, so quite junior.
Arthur Mitchell (other researcher) confirms this.

I haven't been able to find his baptism - the date of birth is that given on the St Georges Church web site, and confirmed by his marriage certificate - he was 27 in 1887. Chadarghat is now Chadherghat (according to St Georges Church) and is in the cityof Hyderabad.

Norman Chamarette says he had a wonderful military funeral at Hyderabad.

Arthur married Catherine Emma Combes on 21 Dec 1887 in St George's Church, Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India. Catherine (daughter of John Gilbert Combes and Ruth Eliza Willamina Henrietta Bowen) was born on 12 Oct 1866 in Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India; was christened on 27 Dec 1866 in Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India; died on 29 Jun 1892 in Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India; was buried on 30 Jun 1892 in Chaderghat, Hyderabad, India. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Also Known As: Known as Kate