James James

Abt 1850 -

• Name	James James
  Born	Abt 1850	Dinas, Pembrokeshire, Wales
  Gender	Male
  Occupation	Labourer, sometimes Farm Labourer.
  Person ID	I42	Family
  Last Modified	5 Apr 2011

  
  

  Father	John James
  Family ID	F133	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Anne Bowen,   b. Abt 1849, Newport, Pembrokeshire, Wales ,   d. Bef 1901  (Age ~ 51 years)
  Married	8 Sep 1870	Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales   [1]
  Notes	There was another possible marriage for James James and Ann Bowen at about the right time in the right place. In 1873, at the Harmony Chapel of the Particular Baptists in Haverfordwest, Pembroke. He was 24, a Labourer in Coal Works, residing Penwithin, Manorowen, father Thomas James a Farm Labourer. She was 24, a housemaid, residing in Penrhyn, Llanwnda. father Henry Bowen a Farmer. They both signed ie could write. Reasons for rejecting this were (a) The first child was born in 1871 - but sometimes people married late. (b) On Anne's daughter Sarah's birth certificate her mother made her mark ie could not write. (c) James is everywhere else described as a labourer, sometimes as a farm labourer, not in a coal works. (d) Newport is more likely than Haverfordwest. (e) In the 1871 census,in Owen Bowen's household, his daughter Ann is there, married, name James, with a son Thomas. James James is also in the census, married but residing at the farm where he worked. In the 1891 census all the family is said to have been born in Pembrokeshire but lived in Cardigan. In 1901 her mother Anne was dead, and whoever filled in the form said the children were born in Cardigan. However the two counties seem very flexible - on her birth certificate Sarah is said to have been born in Llantood, Pembrokeshire but registered in Cardigan.
  Children	1. Thomas James,   b. Abt 1871, Newport, Pembrokeshire, Wales   2. Mary Anne James,   b. Abt 1874, Newport, Pembrokeshire, Wales   3. John James,   b. Abt 1876, Newport, Pembrokeshire, Wales   4. Margaret James,   b. 1880, Fishguard, Pembrokeshire, Wales   5. Martha James,   b. Abt 1882, Fishguard, Pembrokeshire, Wales   6. Phoebe James,   b. Abt 1885, Eglwyswrw, Pembrokeshire, Wales   7. Sarah James,   b. 05 Aug 1886, Llantood, Pembrokeshire, Wales   8. William James,   b. 1888, St Dogmells, Pembrokeshire, Wales   9. Hannah James,   b. 1892, Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales
  Last Modified	5 Apr 2011
  Family ID	F34	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  I have not entered the results I found for the 1851 and 1861 censuses. I found two households which might be that of James's father. In one James is 4 in 1851 and 14 in 1861 and his father John is a farmer. In the other James is 2 and 12 and his father John is a farmer in 1851 but in 1861 he is a mason. Both households are in Dinas, Pembrokeshire. I have also found those households in 1841, but have not transcribed the entries. In that year the second John describes himself as a Miller - miller then farmer then mason! We would expect James to be 11 or 12 in 1861, which points at the second John as his father - the one who couldn't settle down.

  
  

• Sources

  [S1] Certificate, Marriage, Cardigan, Sep 1870, vol 11b p11. They were both 22 years old. He was a Farm Servant, residing at Gellyfawr, Nevern, father John James a Farmer. She had no occupation, resided at Penrhyw, Newport, father Owen Bowen, a Farmer. They married in the Registry Ofice, and both made thei mark ie could not write. Witnesses were James Bowen and Elizabeth Bowen.

  
  

• Censuses

  [150]   British Census - 1871, The Rectory, Newport, Wales - James James, aged 21 [148]   British Census - 1881, Llanwern, Fishguard, Wales - James James, aged 32 [146]   British Census - 1891, Upper Uwldan, Cardigan St Mary's, Wales - James James, aged 40 [61]   British Census - 1901, Carriers Lane, Cardigan St Mary, Wales - James James, aged 50