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Sarah James
1886 --
Name Sarah James Born 05 Aug 1886 Llantood, Pembrokeshire, Wales [1] Gender Female Person ID I77 Family Last Modified 4 Apr 2011
Father James James, b. Abt 1850, Dinas, Pembrokeshire, Wales Mother Anne Bowen, b. Abt 1849, Newport, Pembrokeshire, Wales , d. Bef 1901 (Age ~ 51 years) Married 8 Sep 1870 Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales [2] Notes - There was another possible marriage for James James and Ann Bowen at about the right time in the right place.
In 1873, at the Harmony Chapel of the Particular Baptists in Haverfordwest, Pembroke. He was 24, a Labourer in Coal Works, residing Penwithin, Manorowen, father Thomas James a Farm Labourer. She was 24, a housemaid, residing in Penrhyn, Llanwnda. father Henry Bowen a Farmer. They both signed ie could write.
Reasons for rejecting this were
(a) The first child was born in 1871 - but sometimes people married late.
(b) On Anne's daughter Sarah's birth certificate her mother made her mark ie could not write.
(c) James is everywhere else described as a labourer, sometimes as a farm labourer, not in a coal works.
(d) Newport is more likely than Haverfordwest.
(e) In the 1871 census,in Owen Bowen's household, his daughter Ann is there, married, name James, with a son Thomas. James James is also in the census, married but residing at the farm where he worked. - In the 1891 census all the family is said to have been born in Pembrokeshire but lived in Cardigan. In 1901 her mother Anne was dead, and whoever filled in the form said the children were born in Cardigan. However the two counties seem very flexible - on her birth certificate Sarah is said to have been born in Llantood, Pembrokeshire but registered in Cardigan.
Family ID F34 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family 1 William Charles Thomas, b. 28 Jun 1882, Ystradyfodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales , d. Bef 1938 (Age 55 years) Married 7 Jun 1908 Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales [3] Notes - I have assumed this is the Sarah James who married William Charles Thomas in Pembrokeshire since I can find no other Sarah James of the right age in either place in either census with a father of the right name with the right occupation.
Children 1. Glyndwr Charles Thomas, b. 14 Feb 1909, 26 Oaklands Cilfynydd Pontypridd Wales , d. 13 Jan 1982, 17 Portman Ave, East Sheen, London, England (Age 72 years) 2. Adinah Thomas, b. 1911, Cilfynydd, Pontypridd, Wales 3. William Thomas Last Modified 5 Apr 2011 Family ID F52 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family 2 David Griffiths Children 1. Jack Griffiths 2. Arthur Griffiths 3. Idwel Griffiths Last Modified 30 Mar 2007 Family ID F459 Group Sheet | Family Chart
- There was another possible marriage for James James and Ann Bowen at about the right time in the right place.
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Sources - [S1] Certificate, Birth.
Her father's and mother's names match with her marriage and the censuses. Her mother made her mark - ie could not write her name. - [S1] Certificate, Marriage, Cardigan, Sep 1870, vol 11b p11.
They were both 22 years old. He was a Farm Servant, residing at Gellyfawr, Nevern, father John James a Farmer. She had no occupation, resided at Penrhyw, Newport, father Owen Bowen, a Farmer. They married in the Registry Ofice, and both made thei mark ie could not write. Witnesses were James Bowen and Elizabeth Bowen. - [S1] Certificate, Marriage - FRC Ref vol 11A p 1110.
This is the only marriage with the right names in the right place and within the right period to be parents of Glyndwr
- [S1] Certificate, Birth.
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Censuses